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Anatole Madullier
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Posted - 2013.07.04 07:07:00 -
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Come now. They were refused as a political body. Not as persons. I can understand that a funeral of this magnitude should not be drawn into a political situation.
The gesture is noble of course. And I can only hope that the Tribal Council will eventually sit down with the Senate to talk these things over. On the other hand I hope that the gesture from the senate is not purely political. If they really care to mend this divide they would show up still, in their own name, and not representing the senate.
(I'll leave the discussion on how this divide was created and who should make the first step out of this, there are enough threads on that already)
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Anatole Madullier
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Posted - 2013.07.04 08:21:00 -
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Leopold Caine wrote:
Of course, given all the political circumstances regarding Midular's death, not to mention things that escalated from it, I can only call it wishful thinking.
It is a political situation no matter how much someone would like to close their eyes to that simple truth.
The situation surrounding the death of the Ray, the events that followed, those are all political. What is happening now is that the tribe is saying their final goodbyes to their leader, and despite all the controversy surrounding the topic I feel that that should not be drawn into the political field.
Leopold Caine wrote:
Thus implying, or rather sending a message that the Senate doesn't care about the death of Midular, openly mocking it?
You know, given Republic's insolence on this matter I think that would actually be a proper retort, and one they'd deserve.
They can still show personal integrity by showing up and paying their respects. There is nothing wrong with that. The Tribal Council stated so themselves this would not be a problem. I don't see in any way, shape or form how paying your respects for someone lost is openly mocking it.
Aelisha wrote:
I see nothing of particularly starling or worrying nature here, just the media bleating on about the reasonable request to keep politics out of an important funeral
This!
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Anatole Madullier
Alexylva Paradox
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Posted - 2013.07.04 12:31:00 -
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Leopold Caine wrote:
Ergo, at this point sending a Senate representative with a message that 'they are here just as physical persons' would send a clear message that Senate doesn't really care about Midular's death. Not sure the Republic really cares.
At this point however, the Senate will probably do nothing about it, as usual.
I disagree. At this point if any senator would show up it would testify of their personal conviction and dedication to mending the divide created between the Republic and the Federation. It's about a personal statement at that point. However care should be taken that a senator does not go ahead and make a statement like this because they disagree with things in the Federation, or because of personal profiling.
If anyone, and I do mean anyone in this cluster decides to go to the funeral procession it should be done because of personal conviction and respect towards the Ray.
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Anatole Madullier
Alexylva Paradox
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Posted - 2013.07.04 14:57:00 -
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Jorden Ishonen wrote:Anatole Madullier wrote:If anyone, and I do mean anyone in this cluster decides to go to the funeral procession it should be done because of personal conviction and respect towards the Ray. "Hey, let's have a funeral for this noted proponent of peace in the cluster. What? The Federation Senate wants to come and express commitment towards restoring peace between the Republic and Federation? SCREW THEM!"
I think you might have misread the article. I don't think the Tribal Council ever said "SCREW THEM" anywhere in their statement. Perhaps we should stop superimposing our feelings and experiences on this news article, and leave it at that.
Ava Starfire wrote:
We do not want a funeral for our beloved chief to become a political and media circus.
I will cease the debate. My belated condolences.
Fly safe, fly free.
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